tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4737025559858978163.post5205224133200742872..comments2024-03-28T04:41:30.440-04:00Comments on DISCOURSE AND DRAGONS: Quote of the DayKiltedyaksmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03462341093016199620noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4737025559858978163.post-35496988636348332292012-06-01T16:28:30.207-04:002012-06-01T16:28:30.207-04:00I only played three Encounters sessions, so I did ...I only played three Encounters sessions, so I did not feel any "power creep." Maybe that just crops up in longer games(?) I definitely recall healing surges and an insane amount of hit points.<br /><br />Thanks for explaining btw =]burnedfxhttp://thedelvers.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4737025559858978163.post-37390355506780039672012-06-01T12:33:52.930-04:002012-06-01T12:33:52.930-04:00I got the impression that people thought 4e charac...I got the impression that people thought 4e characters were too over powered (I may be wrong on that) and that it was hard to die in 4e. <br /><br />And for the record, I prefer OSR, I hate the "sameness" of the 4e character classes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4737025559858978163.post-45104465448855776722012-05-31T11:39:03.090-04:002012-05-31T11:39:03.090-04:00@Anon 1e or 4e, it's still D&D . . . By na...@Anon <i>1e or 4e, it's still D&D . . .</i> By name only. They are different games. This is a fact and not an argument. It does not matter to me which one you prefer.<br /><br /><i>I was confused . . . PC's were dying left, right . . .level 3 was a rare sight</i> Now I am confused. In Jr. High my players would die in our Rifts game and a LOT in our Silent Mobius game. What were you burnedfxhttp://thedelvers.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4737025559858978163.post-29943789222042816062012-05-31T01:53:59.060-04:002012-05-31T01:53:59.060-04:00I'm not really sure why there is such a huge a...I'm not really sure why there is such a huge argument over rules like this. 1e or 4e, it's still D&D and you take the rules you like, discard the ones you don't. <br /><br />I was confused when I first got into OSR from playing 4e, because in the 4e campaign I was playing the PC's were dying left, right and centre. Even had a few TPK's, and level 3 was a rare sight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4737025559858978163.post-9741252711503410322012-05-31T01:12:58.993-04:002012-05-31T01:12:58.993-04:00Lol!Lol!Cr0mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4737025559858978163.post-89258179508445288552012-05-30T16:02:56.323-04:002012-05-30T16:02:56.323-04:00@ Cr0m-I think you missed the point. Go back and r...@ Cr0m-I think you missed the point. Go back and re-read the text:<br /><br /><i>GET RID OF SAVE OR DIE EFFECTS. GET RID OF ALL OF THEM. FOREVER. NO EXCEPTIONS.</i><br /><br />The point is it is up to the DM what to place in THEIR game. This idea of player entitlement taken out to the extreme of building tank characters that should never die is BS. The DM ends up feeling like a trained organ xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17814063435676111475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4737025559858978163.post-79758303752536277082012-05-30T14:57:48.293-04:002012-05-30T14:57:48.293-04:00If you're saying Weis & Hickman deserve th...<i>If you're saying Weis & Hickman deserve the credit . . .</i> No, that is not what I meant.<br /><br />My mention of Weis & Hickman is who comes to my mind when someone is speaking of how "old school" plays and how "new school" plays. You can point the finger at both sides when it comes to play styles developed. I hope that is more clear.<br /><br />Specifically,burnedfxhttp://thedelvers.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4737025559858978163.post-12219412404959980942012-05-30T14:37:01.409-04:002012-05-30T14:37:01.409-04:00penalties -> penalties or benefitspenalties -> penalties or benefitscr0mhttp://redvan.wikidot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4737025559858978163.post-91977890453382450722012-05-30T14:35:31.723-04:002012-05-30T14:35:31.723-04:00Sorry burnedfx, I don't follow what you're...Sorry burnedfx, I don't follow what you're saying. I haven't had much coffee today though, so it may be me.<br /><br />If you're saying Weis & Hickman deserve the credit for a lot of the "you're dead, but there's a resurrection potion in the room" stuff, I don't agree.<br /><br />There are plenty of modules that Gary had a hand in that suffer from it. My cr0mhttp://redvan.wikidot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4737025559858978163.post-34734097414252609542012-05-30T11:04:39.672-04:002012-05-30T11:04:39.672-04:00@Cr0m
I always think of Weis & Hickman over Gy...@Cr0m<br />I always think of Weis & Hickman over Gygax.<br /><br />Condensed, the save or die comment guy does not like the two droids <i>in Star Trek</i>, regardless of the universe he may not understand.<br /><br />I truly thought he was being purposefully naive. I find it funny either way.burnedfxhttp://thedelvers.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4737025559858978163.post-25028108601024868302012-05-30T01:19:15.519-04:002012-05-30T01:19:15.519-04:00It's not the t-ball people who popularized the...It's not the t-ball people who popularized the idea that there shouldn't be permanent defeat in D&D. It was TSR. I've got a classic module right here with a medusa, and it says that she will spare "one or two" adventurers and offer a vial of... wait for it... stone to flesh, in return for her freedom. The module is B2, by Gary Gygax.<br /><br />Face it guys, early D&Cr0mhttp://redvan.wikidot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4737025559858978163.post-53498231818971833622012-05-29T23:54:13.829-04:002012-05-29T23:54:13.829-04:004e was Hasbro/WOTC's save or die. They rolled...4e was Hasbro/WOTC's save or die. They rolled poorly.Norman J. Harman Jr.https://www.blogger.com/profile/01319655075997712313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4737025559858978163.post-25277931112501556112012-05-29T02:24:57.423-04:002012-05-29T02:24:57.423-04:00I hate to say it but I think this is what happens ...I hate to say it but I think this is what happens when you live in a Politically Correct society that believes in giving trophies to the losing side at the t-ball game.<br /><br />Sometimes a low level character declares an attack, needs a 20 and puts the blade right through the dragon's eye. And sometimes the high level character gets fried in mid-air doing the same thing.<br /><br />You xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17814063435676111475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4737025559858978163.post-11140994454572531562012-05-29T01:38:55.981-04:002012-05-29T01:38:55.981-04:00I thought so too!
1. This guy is brilliant!
2. Wh...I thought so too!<br /><br />1. This guy is brilliant!<br />2. What else has he written?<br />3. Oh.<br />4. Ack!<br />5. I have to leave this site now.burnedfxhttp://thedelvers.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4737025559858978163.post-19123672075124289812012-05-29T01:15:07.471-04:002012-05-29T01:15:07.471-04:00Some sort of brilliant satire, I hope.Some sort of brilliant satire, I hope.Will Mistrettahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18403399118961902073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4737025559858978163.post-54552741226779964992012-05-29T01:07:45.874-04:002012-05-29T01:07:45.874-04:00That kinda sad actually. It's obviously just ...That kinda sad actually. It's obviously just a boardgame to him, an abstract like chess and from that perspective he has a point. The game he's playing is a long tedious grind and looses all his progress if he dies. Irrelevant that there are save or die effects in real life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4737025559858978163.post-80052531991601969752012-05-28T23:09:24.635-04:002012-05-28T23:09:24.635-04:00GET RID OF SAVE OR DIE EFFECTS. GET RID OF ALL OF ...<i>GET RID OF SAVE OR DIE EFFECTS. GET RID OF ALL OF THEM. FOREVER. NO EXCEPTIONS.</i><br /><br />His entire comment made me laugh.<br /><br />I can't figure out how to provide a direct link, so here is the whole thing below:<br /><br /><i>OH and how did I forget.<br /><br />GET RID OF SAVE OR DIE EFFECTS. GET RID OF ALL OF THEM. FOREVER. NO EXCEPTIONS.<br /><br />I don't care if the burnedfxhttp://thedelvers.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4737025559858978163.post-70594782370602488262012-05-28T20:43:03.981-04:002012-05-28T20:43:03.981-04:00Ouch!
heh hehOuch! <br /><br />heh hehTenkarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05159289652051155824noreply@blogger.com